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[QUOTE="shehzad, post: 6342928, member: 109211"] Si, il y a ! Une source miraculeuse. The people of Israel complained to Moses about the lack of water at Kadesh-barnea. The Lord commanded Moses to speak to the rock and it would bring forth water. In his anger against the people for their rebellion, Moses struck the rock, as he had done forty years earlier at Horeb (Ex 17:1-7). Water gushed out, but there was a penalty for disobeying Gods command. Moses would not be allowed to bring the people into the Land. From that time, the spring at that place was called the "waters of Meribah" because, " the sons of Israel contended with the Lord, and He proved Himself holy among them." (Num 20:2-13). When Israel left Kadesh-barnea, they traveled about ten miles to the northeast to Mount Hor. There, Aaron died and "was gathered to his people." Israel mourned there for thirty days (Num 20:22-29). [url]http://www.ancientsandals.com/overviews/kadesh-barnea.htm[/url] Je te conseille de lire en détail l'article "The Great and Terrible Wilderness" (le titre fait référence au désert de ...Paran/Faran) de Velkivosky qui a affirmé que Kadesh Barnea ne pouvait être que... La Mecque. (biographie de Immanuel Velikovsky : [url]http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky[/url] Avant lui, il y eu le commentateur juif Ibn Ezra et peut-être d'autres mais que je ne connais pas pour l'instant. Kamal Salibi n'est pas d'accord pour placer Kadesh Barnea à la Mecque car selon lui cette région était trop aride (mais dans ce cas comment expliquer la source de zam zam ?) Aussi selon Kamal Salibi, le mont Hor cité plus haut ne peut être que Al Harra, dans les montagnes de Zahran en Arabie Saoudite. Un extrait du document de Velikovsky : Zam-Zam is explained to mean in Arabic to drink with small gulps, or also water in abundance. But it may be a reminiscence of the former prehistoric dwellers in Arabia. Concerning the eastern boundaries of the land of Ammon, lost in the sand of the desert, which the tribes approached at the end of their wandering, it is said (Deut. 2:20): Giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zam-Zum(im). (à ton avis d'où vient le nom Zam zam si ce n'est des Zamzumin, ou Zizum, les géants cités dans la Bible.) [...] The spies were sent from the desert of Pharan (Numbers 13:3). The desert of Pharan according to the old Arabian sources, neglected by Biblical research, is in the mountainous area of Hedjaz.(17) The spies returned to Pharan into Kadesh and brought their report (Numbers 13:26). The name Kadesh was given to many different places. Jerusalem was called Kadesh, as was Carchemish on the Orontes; there was a Kadesh in Galilee, Kadesh Naphtali, mentioned a few times in the Scriptures. The word means sanctuary and every venerated place was called Kadesh. [...] Difficulties were laid before the exegetes concerning the locality called Kadesh, a station on the wandering of the Israelites. Kadesh was at the beginning of the march, Kadesh was at its end: And the space in which we came from Kadesh-barnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was thirty and eight years. (Deut. 2:14). Accordingly it was surmised that for 38 out of the 40 years of the wandering the tribes were settled in Kadesh. The reason for the long stay of the Israelites at Kadesh-barnea was in the existence there of sources of water, while in the desert most of the rare sources became bitter. At Mecca there are sources of water, considered sacred and many legends are preserved about them. These water springs, not destroyed in the catastrophe, were the main incentive for the Israelites to congregate there. [url]http://www.varchive.org/ce/baalbek/desert.htm[/url] [/QUOTE]
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