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North Korea executes defense chief with an anti-aircraft gun: South Korea agency
By Ju-min Park and James Pearson
SEOUL | Wed May 13, 2015 9:32am EDT

By Ju-min Park and James Pearson

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea executed its defense chief by putting him in front of an anti-aircraft gun at a firing range, Seoul's National Intelligence Service told lawmakers, which would be the latest in a series of high-level purges since Kim Jong Un took charge.

Hyon Yong Chol, who headed the isolated nuclear-capable country's military, was charged with treason, including disobeying Kim and falling asleep during an event at which North Korea's young leader was present, according to South Korean lawmakers briefed in a closed-door meeting with the spy agency on Wednesday.

His execution was watched by hundreds of people, according to NIS intelligence shared with lawmakers.

It was not clear how the NIS obtained the information and it is not possible to independently verify such reports from within secretive North Korea.

"The NIS official said it had been confirmed by multiple sources. It is still just intelligence, but he said they were confident," Shin Kyoung-min, a lawmaker and member of the opposition New Politics Alliance for Democracy, who attended the briefing, told Reuters.

Experts on North Korea said there was no sign of instability in Pyongyang, but there could be if purges continued.

Kim had previously ordered the execution of 15 senior officials this year as punishment for challenging his authority, according to the NIS. In all, some 70 officials have been executed since Kim took over after his father's death in 2011, Yonhap news agency cited the NIS as saying.

"There is no clear or present danger to Kim Jong Un's leadership or regime stability, but if this continues to happen into next year, then we should seriously start to think about revising our scenarios on North Korea," said Michael Madden, an expert on the country's leadership who contributes to the 38 North think tank in Washington.

Koh Yu-hwan, a North Korea specialist at Dongguk University in Seoul, said the regime could "reach its limit" if Kim's purges continued.

"But it's still too early to tell," said Koh.

The lawmakers said Hyon, 66, was executed at a firing range at the Kanggon Military Training Area, 22 km (14 miles) north of Pyongyang, according to the NIS.

The U.S.-based Committee for Human Rights in North Korea said last month that, according to satellite images, the range was likely used for an execution by ZPU-4 anti-aircraft guns in October. The target was just 30 meters (100 feet) away from the weapons, which have a range of 8,000 meters, it said.

INSULAR, OPAQUE

Hyon was said to have shown disrespect to Kim by dozing off at a military event, the Seoul lawmakers said, citing the agency briefing. Hyon was also believed to have voiced complaints against Kim and had not followed his orders several times, according to the lawmakers.

He was arrested in late April and executed three days later without legal proceedings, the NIS told lawmakers.

"When the NIS is talking officially, they are relatively reliable. There are good reasons to believe it is true, but we cannot be 100 percent sure yet," said Andrei Lankov, a North Korea expert at Kookmin University in Seoul.

Last month, Hyon traveled to Moscow, where he spoke at a security conference. He was reported by North Korean state media to have appeared at an event in late April - shortly before the NIS told lawmakers he was executed - an outward indication that all was normal.

North Korea is one of the most insular - and unpredictable - countries in the world and its power structure is highly opaque. The current leader is the third generation of the Kim family that has ruled with near-absolute power since the country was formed in 1948.

Kim Jong Un's father, Kim Jong Il, was appointed successor to the North Korean throne two decades before coming to power in 1994, during which time he was able to purge and alienate potential political challengers. Kim Jong Un, by contrast, has had few years to consolidate power.

In 2013, Kim Jong Un purged and executed his uncle, Jang Song Thaek, once considered the second most powerful man in Pyongyang's leadership, for factionalism and committing crimes damaging to the economy, along with a group of officials close to him.

Lankov said that the purges in Pyongyang did not necessarily point to instability.

"The common assumption is that it's bad for stability, but I'm not so sure," he said, adding it could be Kim consolidating his power base and removing people who had not sufficiently proved their loyalty.

Pyongyang's military leadership has been in a state of perpetual reshuffle since Kim Jong Un took power. He has changed his armed forces chief four times since coming to power, while his father, Kim Jong Il, who ruled the country for almost two decades, replaced his chief just three times.

The South Korean spy agency told lawmakers that Ma Won Chun, known as North Korea's chief architect of new infrastructure under Kim, was also purged or punished, the lawmakers said.

Ma had also once served as vice director of the secretive Finance and Accounting Department in the ruling Workers' Party and, until recently, was effectively the regime's money man.

(Editing by Tony Munroe and Raju Gopalakrishnan)

North Korea executes defense chief with an anti-aircraft gun: South Korea agency
 

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Article en anglais, car breaking news:

North Korea executes defense chief with an anti-aircraft gun: South Korea agency
By Ju-min Park and James Pearson
SEOUL | Wed May 13, 2015 9:32am EDT

By Ju-min Park and James Pearson

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea executed its defense chief by putting him in front of an anti-aircraft gun at a firing range, Seoul's National Intelligence Service told lawmakers, which would be the latest in a series of high-level purges since Kim Jong Un took charge.

Hyon Yong Chol, who headed the isolated nuclear-capable country's military, was charged with treason, including disobeying Kim and falling asleep during an event at which North Korea's young leader was present, according to South Korean lawmakers briefed in a closed-door meeting with the spy agency on Wednesday.

His execution was watched by hundreds of people, according to NIS intelligence shared with lawmakers.

It was not clear how the NIS obtained the information and it is not possible to independently verify such reports from within secretive North Korea.

"The NIS official said it had been confirmed by multiple sources. It is still just intelligence, but he said they were confident," Shin Kyoung-min, a lawmaker and member of the opposition New Politics Alliance for Democracy, who attended the briefing, told Reuters.

Experts on North Korea said there was no sign of instability in Pyongyang, but there could be if purges continued.

Kim had previously ordered the execution of 15 senior officials this year as punishment for challenging his authority, according to the NIS. In all, some 70 officials have been executed since Kim took over after his father's death in 2011, Yonhap news agency cited the NIS as saying.

"There is no clear or present danger to Kim Jong Un's leadership or regime stability, but if this continues to happen into next year, then we should seriously start to think about revising our scenarios on North Korea," said Michael Madden, an expert on the country's leadership who contributes to the 38 North think tank in Washington.

Koh Yu-hwan, a North Korea specialist at Dongguk University in Seoul, said the regime could "reach its limit" if Kim's purges continued.

"But it's still too early to tell," said Koh.

The lawmakers said Hyon, 66, was executed at a firing range at the Kanggon Military Training Area, 22 km (14 miles) north of Pyongyang, according to the NIS.

The U.S.-based Committee for Human Rights in North Korea said last month that, according to satellite images, the range was likely used for an execution by ZPU-4 anti-aircraft guns in October. The target was just 30 meters (100 feet) away from the weapons, which have a range of 8,000 meters, it said.

INSULAR, OPAQUE

Hyon was said to have shown disrespect to Kim by dozing off at a military event, the Seoul lawmakers said, citing the agency briefing. Hyon was also believed to have voiced complaints against Kim and had not followed his orders several times, according to the lawmakers.

He was arrested in late April and executed three days later without legal proceedings, the NIS told lawmakers.

"When the NIS is talking officially, they are relatively reliable. There are good reasons to believe it is true, but we cannot be 100 percent sure yet," said Andrei Lankov, a North Korea expert at Kookmin University in Seoul.

Last month, Hyon traveled to Moscow, where he spoke at a security conference. He was reported by North Korean state media to have appeared at an event in late April - shortly before the NIS told lawmakers he was executed - an outward indication that all was normal.

North Korea is one of the most insular - and unpredictable - countries in the world and its power structure is highly opaque. The current leader is the third generation of the Kim family that has ruled with near-absolute power since the country was formed in 1948.

Kim Jong Un's father, Kim Jong Il, was appointed successor to the North Korean throne two decades before coming to power in 1994, during which time he was able to purge and alienate potential political challengers. Kim Jong Un, by contrast, has had few years to consolidate power.

In 2013, Kim Jong Un purged and executed his uncle, Jang Song Thaek, once considered the second most powerful man in Pyongyang's leadership, for factionalism and committing crimes damaging to the economy, along with a group of officials close to him.

Lankov said that the purges in Pyongyang did not necessarily point to instability.

"The common assumption is that it's bad for stability, but I'm not so sure," he said, adding it could be Kim consolidating his power base and removing people who had not sufficiently proved their loyalty.

Pyongyang's military leadership has been in a state of perpetual reshuffle since Kim Jong Un took power. He has changed his armed forces chief four times since coming to power, while his father, Kim Jong Il, who ruled the country for almost two decades, replaced his chief just three times.

The South Korean spy agency told lawmakers that Ma Won Chun, known as North Korea's chief architect of new infrastructure under Kim, was also purged or punished, the lawmakers said.

Ma had also once served as vice director of the secretive Finance and Accounting Department in the ruling Workers' Party and, until recently, was effectively the regime's money man.

(Editing by Tony Munroe and Raju Gopalakrishnan)

North Korea executes defense chief with an anti-aircraft gun: South Korea agency
J'ai liké pas pour l'article..
Mais parceque je savais pas s'il fallait prendre au sérieux ou pas.:rolleyes:.. mais il s'avére que c'est bien réel...

Condamné à mort pour s'être assoupi... c'est l'excécution qui est horrible.. par un missile aérien !!:eek:
Il est vraiment allumé ce Kim jong uh
Fais dodo calin mon p'tit frère fais dodo t'auras ton missile...
 
J'ai liké pas pour l'article..
Mais parceque je savais pas s'il fallait prendre au sérieux ou pas.:rolleyes:.. mais il s'avére que c'est bien réel...

Condamné à mort pour s'être assoupi... c'est l'excécution qui est horrible.. par un missile aérien !!:eek:
Il est vraiment allumé ce Kim jong uh
Fais dodo calin mon p'tit frère fais dodo t'auras ton missile...

T'aurais des liens éventuels qui confirment cette info ?

Non pas que je ne l'en crois pas capable, vu le personnage c'est bien possible. D'un autre coté, ça ressemble tellement à de la propagande. De la propagande qu'on pourrait mettre en place des deux cotés d'ailleurs.

PS : j'ai cru lire "anti aircraft gun", ce qui ressemble plus à ceci :

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/gepard.jpg
 
voila un cas ou une intervention militaire occidentale ou chinoise pour raser ce régime serait la bien venue. Raser ce régime et liberer ce peuple, mais c'est dangereux car il va balancer la bombe atomique sur Seoul le premier jour de l'intervention. Il fallait le raser avant la bombe.
 

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T'aurais des liens éventuels qui confirment cette info ?

Non pas que je ne l'en crois pas capable, vu le personnage c'est bien possible. D'un autre coté, ça ressemble tellement à de la propagande. De la propagande qu'on pourrait mettre en place des deux cotés d'ailleurs.

PS : j'ai cru lire "anti aircraft gun", ce qui ressemble plus à ceci :

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/gepard.jpg

Oui, l'article de Reuters parle d'un canon DCA; ca correspond a ton image. Du tres gros calibre pour des representants de haut calibre du regime, quoi.
 

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Pas certaine de la véracité de cette info, on a aussi dit qu'il avait fait exécuter son ex, ex qui a été apparemment revue quelques mois après et toujours en vie...méfiance avec des infos comme ça !
Reuters ecrit aussi que l'info n'est pas confirmee independament des sources sud-coreennes. Mais Kim Jong Un n'en est pas a sa premiere purge; c'est pas out of character, pour ainsi dire. L'info parait plausible, considerant l'historique de Kim.
 

Les grandes chaines télés se contentent, aujourd'hui, d'être le relais de deux ou trois agences de presse maximum. En gros, ils prennent tout aux mêmes sources et se contentent d'avoir un traitement de l'information différent.

C'est pour ça que j'apprécie les sources multiples sur un évènement aussi disons haut en couleur.
 

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Condamné à mort pour s'être assoupi... c'est l'excécution qui est horrible.. par un missile aérien !!:eek:.

S'assoupir dans l'exercice de ses fonctions c'est déjà scandaleux, mais le faire lors d'un événement officiel c'est un acte de défiance ostentatoire et même une insulte à la nation... et si c'est en présence du chef de l'état.... ben ça dépasse les limites de l'entendement... c'est comme lui cracher à la gueule, et pisser sur le peuple qu'il représente.
bref il a bien de la chance d'avoir eu droit à une mort, certes spectaculaire, mais surtout très rapide... déchiré avant de pouvoir se rendre compte de ce qui lui arrivait.
maintenant il faut aller plus loin et exterminer sa famille, car un tel individu ne mérite pas que sa descendance ou son entourage continue à souiller notre planète de son déshonneur.
 
S'assoupir dans l'exercice de ses fonctions c'est déjà scandaleux, mais le faire lors d'un événement officiel c'est un acte de défiance ostentatoire et même une insulte à la nation... et si c'est en présence du chef de l'état.... ben ça dépasse les limites de l'entendement... c'est comme lui cracher à la gueule, et pisser sur le peuple qu'il représente.
bref il a bien de la chance d'avoir eu droit à une mort, certes spectaculaire, mais surtout très rapide... déchiré avant de pouvoir se rendre compte de ce qui lui arrivait.
maintenant il faut aller plus loin et exterminer sa famille, car un tel individu ne mérite pas que sa descendance ou son entourage continue à souiller notre planète de son déshonneur.
J'hallucine ou quoi? Tu peux confirmer ce que tu viens d'écrire ??? j'allais dire j'en crois pas mes oreilles. Non , j'en crois pas mes yeux. Y a t il d'autres personnes qui lisent la même chose que moi ou mon PC à buggé ?
 

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Au fait, il y a une confirmation de cette info?
Si elle est vraie, le bibendum est un malade (qui finira mal).
Si elle est fausse, je sais qu'on ne prête qu'aux riches, mais pas a peine d'en faire trop non plus. Le régime nord coréen est déjà suffisamment caricatural comme ça...
:)
 
Reuters ecrit aussi que l'info n'est pas confirmee independament des sources sud-coreennes. Mais Kim Jong Un n'en est pas a sa premiere purge; c'est pas out of character, pour ainsi dire. L'info parait plausible, considerant l'historique de Kim.
Sauf que les autres infos sont bidons aussi pour ta gouverne alors on va continuer longtemps à sourcer avec du faux
un jours c'est l'oncle qui se fait bouffer par 150 chiens (info totalement bidon) mais reprise partout évidemment
une autre fois c'est sa maitresse ... demain on nous annoncera que Kim bouffe des petits enfants au p'tit déj et il y aura des comme toi pour y croire ..
 
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Il es vraiment marteau ce mec.

Un vrai psychotique. Plus tard ça sera quoi ? Bombarder un militaire traitre par avion de chasse avec missile à guidage laser ? Ou mettre le "traitre" dans une barque de pêcheur et lui envoyer un missile de croisière dans la gueule depuis une frégate ?

Il est pété du boulon ce mec. Pauvre peuple Nord-Coréen...
 

HAHAHA le dailymail qui continue de répandre la fausse info sur l'oncle dévoré par 120 chiens dans l'encadré à droite en rappel
en effet c'est très crédible le dailymail :D
Dommage que @Nalinux ne peut répondre il t'aurait fait la morale !
A propos des 120 chiens affamé
L'oncle de Kim Jong-un (pas) dévoré par 120 chiens affamés: l'info venait d'un tweet satirique | Slate.fr
 
Un vrai psychotique. Plus tard ça sera quoi ? Bombarder un militaire traitre par avion de chasse avec missile à guidage laser ? Ou mettre le "traitre" dans une barque de pêcheur et lui envoyer un missile de croisière dans la gueule depuis une frégate ?

Il est pété du boulon ce mec. Pauvre peuple Nord-Coréen...

Dès qu'il s'agit de massacrer son peuple le gars il redouble d'imagination par contre pour leur protéction de santé et de bien être = rideau...
 
Tu preferes la BBC, @ismahan75?

North Korea Defence Chief Hyon Yong-chol 'executed' - BBC News

Je ne savais pas qu'il y avait un fan club de Kim Jong Un ici sur Bladi. :D

Le premier post est la source primaire, l'agence Reuters.

Je ne suis pas fan du tout mais je suis comme d'autre bladinautes :
Concernant la corée du nord et Kim je ne saute pas sur les infos tête baissée et yeux fermées alors que rien n'est confirmée
Les exemples préc!dent confirme qu'il s'agit de désinformation la plupart du temps
Même l'affaire de l'oncle se faisant soi disant boufféer par 120 chien a été reprise par tout les médias serieux !
Alors si tu es serieux et un non mouton tu dois attendre que ça se décante pour faire la part entre le vrai du faux !
Did Kim Jong Un feed his uncle to dogs? - BBC News
 

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Je ne suis pas fan du tout mais je suis comme d'autre bladinautes :
Concernant la corée du nord et Kim je ne saute pas sur les infos tête baissée et yeux fermées alors que rien n'est confirmée
Les exemples préc!dent confirme qu'il s'agit de désinformation la plupart du temps

On a quand même des témoignages sur les camps de concentrations nord coréens... alors peut-être que les gens, femmes et enfants compris, n'y sont pas battus, affamés, humiliés, torturés, tués... mais on sait que ces camps existent... on a les images satellite... après on peut dire que ce sont des camps de vacances

et en voyant cette photo, on peut aussi dire que les nord coréens sont très économes et très écolos et n'allument pas les lumières la nuit.... on peut aussi se dire qu'il y a un problème d'électricité ou d'ampoules...
http://www.mega-buzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/coree-du-nord-film-nasa-lumiere-660x330.jpg
 
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