Sourate 2

typologie

aedem sed aliter
Bladinaute averti
salam

je metterai mes interogation et commentaire pertinent sur la sourate 2 :

voir le cours de NAK :

partie 1 sur le verset 2 alkitab : https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-schema-jakobson.428948/#post-16043419

partie 1 v2 rayba NAK dit que le preuve de la veracité du coran se decouvre en l'etudiant et pas d'une facon evidente qui sauterai au yeux ...

partie 2 v2 moutaqin NAK dit que le mot moutaqin ne designe pas forcement les musulmans
cela pose la question de comment ont interprete les mots du coran car en langue arabe le croyant est un terme general cela peut s'applique a toute personne qui croient mais le coran lui donne un sens specifique visant d'aprés les moufasiroun les musulmans qui croient en islam et pas les gens du livre meme si eux aussi croient ...

partie 2 sur le v2 ghayb ne signifie pas juste invisible mais aussi est en rapport au regard des gens comme pour le verset ceux qui craigne leur seigneur dans le ghayb

partie 2verset 4 sur la certitude en l'au dela remarque sur l'absence dans la thora de ce concept et remaque a creusé sur la motivation de nos actes sans cette croyance ...

 
Dernière édition:

typologie

aedem sed aliter
Bladinaute averti
juste pour le permier verset

2 ذَلِكَ الْكِتَابُ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهِ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ
C'est le Livre au sujet duquel il n'y a aucun doute,
c'est un guide pour les pieux,

premiere remarque le coran parle d'un livre eloigné avec la particule ذَلِكَ
pourquoi pas employé dhalikoum ?
pourquoi une particule eloigné ?
quel est cette ecrit ou ce livre ?
car au moment où ce verset est recité le coran par ecrit n'existe pas
et le coran n'est pas entierement revelé
de quel genre de doute il s'agit ?
car les doute sur le sens du coran ce n'est pas ce qui manque
qui sont ceux qui se premunissent traduit par pieux ?

dans un autre passage

185 شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ الَّذِي أُنزِلَ فِيهِ الْقُرْآنُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَبَيِّنَاتٍ مِّنَ الْهُدَى وَالْفُرْقَانِ

là c bien coran dont il est question
et la guidé concerne les gens
pourtant une partie des gens ne sont pas guidé

dans un autre passage

2 تَنزِيلُ الْكِتَابِ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهِ مِن رَّبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
La Révélation du Livre, nul doute là-dessus, émane du Seigneur de l'univers.

et pourtant les gens doutes ....
 

typologie

aedem sed aliter
Bladinaute averti
https://www.bladi.info/threads/proceder-sectes.433346/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/defendre-vrai-faux.429441/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/question-facon-debattre.432670/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/savoir-certitude.432930/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/vrai-etudes-coran.475105/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pensez-tafsir.443013/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/tafasir-recits-israelite.420796/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/quune-preuve-islam.441785/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-affirment-verite-clair.454703/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/prouver-simplement-coran-divin.461016/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/preuve-lislam-religion-verite.452475/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/musulmans-prouvent-miracle-coran.472601/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/exemple-concret-linimitabilite-coran.471225/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/miracle-scientifique-coran.447490/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/clef-voir-lijaz-coran.478686/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-prouve-divin.442612/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/preuve-lorigine-divine-coran.423174/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-zacharie-demande-signe.430313/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/faux-lhistoire-theorie-scientifique.442751/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-rapporte-faits-historiq-recit.476347/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/historicite-recit-prophetique.431993/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/aucune-trace-royaume-salomon.429694/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/prophete-envoye-dieu-autres-culture.421887/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-limite-culture-biblique.424027/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/versions-canonique-actuel-coran.443579/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/cherche-source-recits-cite-coran.475247/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-recueil-recit-ancien.442589/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/confirme-coran-bible.443147/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/falsification-bible.432061/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/question-difficile.428551/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/argument-chretienne-annonce-muhamad.444221/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/lannonce-hamoudot.430137/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/verset-intemporel.423823/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/differencie-passages-allegorique-litteral.442266/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/faux-lhistoire-theorie-scientifique.442751/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/historicite-recit-prophetique.431993/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/aucune-trace-royaume-salomon.429694/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-codifie-linformation.435328/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-message-principal-finalite.433612/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sujets-traite-lislam.444494/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/composition-magistrale-coran.429431/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/trouver-sommaire-sourates.429807/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/brouillon-sommaire-thematiq-surat-114.431812/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/rethorique-semitique-pensez.428859/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/forme-tailles-versets.475283/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/mots-etrangers-coran.476543/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/verset-etrange.475820/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/cherche-versets-suspect.482931/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/arguments-versets-contradiction.467190/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/lislam-mode-demploi.457758/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/livre-guide-parfait.457808/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sujets-composant-coran.454695/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/modeliser-simplement-coran.447297/


https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-schema-jakobson.428948/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/vision-description-lange-gabriel.429089/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/shaytan-chasse-ciel.429092/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-epoque-futur-proche.429113/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sirius-voyage-nocturne.431260/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/verset-sahaba.466625/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-parle-langage.477370/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-comprenons.476903/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-message-sagesse.479029/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sensibilise-gout-coran.466799/
 

typologie

aedem sed aliter
Bladinaute averti
https://www.bladi.info/threads/trouve-logique.430620/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/interet-poser-meme-question-plusieur.442036/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/reponse-questions-divergence.441769/

sourat
https://www.bladi.info/threads/structure-sourate-2.430046/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sourate-2.476535/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sourate-10.468978/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sourate-12-histoire-devaluation.460320/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sourate-19-langage.475805/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/agencement-sourat-38.428633/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/remarque-sourat-36.496227/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/fil-conducteur-sourat-47.443017/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/remarque-sourat-68.496265/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/remarque-sourat-72.496214/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/remarque-sourat-108.472534/

verset
https://www.bladi.info/threads/chose-etonnante-coran.424588/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/argument-coran.424508/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/comprend-arguments.424808/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/comprendre-verset.430118/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/compris-versets.442409/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/compris-6v35-37.442414/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/explication-6v91.475770/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/17v25-veux-dire-double-vie.442025/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/explication-27v69.444934/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/signification-ayat-s30.429563/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/55v4-explication-albayan.467331/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/signe-grand.475808/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/verset-forme-question.447321/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/expression-interessante.450078/

mot racine

https://www.bladi.info/threads/verite-haqq-islam.434879/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sens-racines-hyy-hqq.433077/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/racine-srf.449963/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sens-nusarifu-alayat.450033/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/racine-kafara.475127/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sens-racine-zkw-tazkya-nafs.454922/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sibgha-dihan.476505/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sens-racine-hsn.466629/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/racine-khalafa.476498/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/racine-wajaha.503459/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/sens-leau-vie.432459/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/nar-feu-lumiere.432026/

personnage
https://www.bladi.info/threads/apparait-lesprit-saint.476506/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/adam-appris-nom-toute-chose.467323/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/questions-recit-dadam.442257/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-adam-limage-animal.461249/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/reflexion-hypothese-recit-2-fils.443758/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/compris-passage-abraham-plantes.442037/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-reine-saba-converti.465625/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/histoire-job-ayoub.464735/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-zacharie-demande-signe.430313/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-jesus-faisait-tel-signe.434916/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/question-jesus-evangiles.459708/
 

typologie

aedem sed aliter
Bladinaute averti
croire dans le coran et ignorer son messager :

rigueur etude preuve :
https://www.bladi.info/threads/rigueur-etudes.470274/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-dieu-explicite.508608/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pretention-affirmation-vague.472646/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/fourre-illusion-savoir.444491/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/discutons-adultes.506311/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pseudo-reponse-arretons-fuir.508342/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/messages-religions-depasses.507897/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/lislam-solution-quattendent-muslim.507982/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-mauvaise-foi.508654/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-2-cherubins-qrb.508666/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/reformuler-probleme-suivant.480163/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-verite-savoir-pb.479099/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/possible-connaitre-chose.479100/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/absence-detude-objective-scientifique.501976/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/etude-coran-musulmans.496132/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-historiens.496013/


foi:
https://www.bladi.info/threads/obliger-gens-croire-obscene.505652/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/condition-foi.464622/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/foi.445353/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/dieu-guide-egare.445354/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/verset-coeurs-scelle.445383/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-clair-comprehensible-accessible.501382/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/lislam-coran-universels.500679/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/religion-soumission-peur-chatiment.501454/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/formes-menace-chatiments-islam.501473/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-livre-torture.503645/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/chatiment-celles-voile.503655/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/musulmans-peur-verite.501012/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-muslim-dit-simplement.501513/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/savants-compris-coran.458395/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/adhere-religion-seul-comprenne-savants.458470/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/chacun.443149/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/promis-salut-janna.477238/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/croient-enfer.461878/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/lorgueil-islam.459380/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/oublies-preches-islamiques.463807
https://www.bladi.info/threads/aides-grandir.467659/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/education-islam-orgueil.468289/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/raison-juger-juge.445407/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/difference-dementir-croire.442587/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/daccuser-personne-refuser-verite.445830/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/suspecter-muslminin-pose-question.456168/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/parmis-pretention-musulmans.441686/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/coran-entretient-doute.477298/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/foi-doute-pretention.477202/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/hypocrisie-sincerite.481471/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/douter-critiquer-lislam-tolere.485176/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/kafir-foi.446540/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/faut-certitude.455083/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/dire-musulman-lislam.479043/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/lislam-muslim-croire-coran.502902/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/confusion-soumi-croire-accepte.467887/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/difference-foi-veritable-superstition.499712/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/but-douter-c-contraire.499449/
 

typologie

aedem sed aliter
Bladinaute averti
https://www.bladi.info/threads/simplicite-lislam.454827/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/lislam-culturel-cultuel.455732/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/probleme-lislam-actuel.455297/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/rapport-malsain-homme-femme.456267/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/ramadan-derangement-voisinage.456912/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/ai-trouve-fraternite.458107/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/suffit-dire-salam.434173/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/uniquement-transmettre-message.441758/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/butin-captive-convaincre-contrainte.433746/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/hypothese-cherche-confirmation-savants.442380/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pseudo-precheur-salafi-reveillent-delire.471172/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pseudo-precheur.475046/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/message-precheur-musulman.503657/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/guerre-musulmans.444041/
Je cherche liste des courants (ou sectes) islamique
https://www.bladi.info/threads/musulman-abolition-lesclavage.487125/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/sagesse-superiorite-moral-lislam.484876/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/regle-dor-grand-commandement.498214/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/daesh-avait-raison.501946/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/enfin-cheikh-balance.497983/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/vol-viol-legalise-islam.498957/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/place-femmes-coran.499395/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/cours-plusieur-mois-pets.499349/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/deformation-lislam-hadith.479044/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/seul-hadith-preuve.441946/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/etude-hadith-waqid-ibn.475059/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/prophete-model-suivre.484875/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pourquoi-mohamad-sautorise-interdit.503652/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/tombe-prophete-faux.498961/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/objectivite-hadiths.485165/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/c-faut-blamer-c.484884/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/ames-identique-base.467740/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/pratique-circoncision-absence-hadith.478959/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/nabidh-boisson-fermente-bombe.502427/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/dihya-ibn-khalifa-alkalbi.496053/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/letrange-absence-debuts-lislam.496116/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/alajami-distinguer-coran-lislam.496118/


https://www.bladi.info/threads/califes-maudits-hela-ouardi.499969/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/derniers-jours-muhammad-hela.499971/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/calamite-jeudi-testament-ecrit.499980/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/hela-ouardi-traumatisme-musulmans.500015/

https://www.bladi.info/threads/maison-ennour-falsifie-livres.485014/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/tariq-ramadhan-donne-cours.503659/
https://www.bladi.info/threads/musulmans-demande-pourquoi.503697/
 
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