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Why then are the muslims defeated?
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[QUOTE="Espiegle69, post: 12957115, member: 141139"] Cause God has nothing to do with this. Men achieve victory and suffers defeats. The Muslim world once greatly advanced missed the turn of the XVIe century and the scientific revolution that would propel men at the center of the picture and emphasizes the use of reason and rationality. As they competed with each other for the continental supremacy, the Western european countries became more centralized and turned from a congregation of lordships to the current nation-state with professional armies, an administration and the ability to collect taxes. Relying on the Caliph's authority, the Muslim world did not go through such emulation and got frozen in time. As Charles Tilly said: "War makes the state and the state makes war." [/QUOTE]
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Why then are the muslims defeated?
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