Hey Moroccans! Wait.. You can’t be serious? Non mais .. vous êtes sérieux là les marocains ?

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I think so too.
It is okaye to seek to increase our intelligence by accepting to evolve our ideas when they seem to be supported by valid arguments .. at the moment.
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Changing your mind is sometimes the key to a good life!

For example Algeria regime could change its mind and make a happy relationship between Morocco and Spain.

“Life is flux,” said the philosopher Heraclitus. The Greek philosopher pointed out in 500 BC that everything is constantly shifting, and becoming something other to what it was before.


This is an interesting topic and the best way to discuss it is to read below article and then we exchange point of view:
 
Why embracing change is the key to a good life
Illustration by Maria Medem


By Lindsay Baker8th October 2020

How we handle change is the essence of our existence and the key to happiness, particularly in our current times of uncertainty. In the first of a new series, The Art of Living, Lindsay Baker explores the philosophy of change.
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“Life is flux,” said the philosopher Heraclitus. The Greek philosopher pointed out in 500 BC that everything is constantly shifting, and becoming something other to what it was before. Like a river, life flows ever onwards, and while we may step from the riverbank into the river, the waters flowing over our feet will never be the same waters that flowed even one moment before. Heraclitus concluded that since the very nature of life is change, to resist this natural flow was to resist the very essence of our existence. “There is nothing permanent except change,” he said.
 
i was talking about change of opinion conditioned by valid arguments.
it could be a sort of limited change
The above link seems to me to be an extrapolation that I simply ca'nt agree with all of the views, except in a relative way.
Besides, I don't think that happiness is waiting for every person who changes.
because all change isn't necessarily a good or a progression.
I think that there's a kind of unchanging fixity, an umbilical cord like space walkers uses, to which we should be stucked, in order not to get lost in the extent of the unknown.
 
I didn't go further in the deepening
because iam quite pragmatic, and philosophical questions exasperate me so much, so that i consider them a waste of time, because of the energy they require for a result that often brings me nothing more in my life. this is my personal point of view
 
Life is like a river, life flows ever onwards, and while we may step from the riverbank into the river, the waters flowing over our feet will never be the same waters that flowed even one moment before.

What this means

Means that we have to keep improving the way we think, the way we see things, the way we interact with our enemies and our friends because our environment is like a river that flows in one direction and if we miss the opportunity of today we may not get that opportunity tomorrow.
 
letstalk a dit:
Life is like a river, life flows ever onwards, and while we may step from the riverbank into the river, the waters flowing over our feet will never be the same waters that flowed even one moment before.

What this means

Means that we have to keep improving the way we think, the way we see things, the way we interact with our enemies and our friends because our environment is like a river that flows in one direction and if we miss the opportunity of today we may not get that opportunity tomorrow.
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i'm not so sure about the meaning of the concept above, adn specificly about your conclusion.
 
letstalk a dit:
But, Let’s not veer to a religious question though
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i thnk that we can't approach these philosophies of change by totaly ignoring the religious fact.
at least fr two reasons:
First is that because those ancient philosophers themsleves was often turning around existentialist questions.
and 2nd, is that the philosophical ideas taken up by more recent thinkers, sociologists and others, have had among their principal objectives, to impose an order of thought capable of radically distancing the religious from any argumentation or explanation on/of the life, in order to guide mankind towards a way of life away from God.
 
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it is quite rare here to see someone changing his mind so quickly, what makes you think so ?
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why did you ignore my request here?

here's 2 links :

www.nytimes.com

Spain, Seeking Better Ties With Morocco, Shifts Stance on Western Sahara

Madrid endorsed a plan for limited autonomy for the territory in northwestern Africa, but the change in policy was denounced by independence groups and could aggravate relations with Algeria.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

thecanadian.news

The agreement forces Morocco to withdraw from Ceuta, Melilla and the Canary Islands

Spain and Morocco put an end this Friday to eight months of continuous and intense negotiations, which have involved Mohamed VI, the King and Pedro Sánchez and which have concluded with the Spanish recognition of the Moroccan autonomy plan for Western Sahara and the Rabat commitment from waive...
thecanadian.news thecanadian.news
 
Thanks for citing link of two articles that speak about the Morocco commitment from waive the demand for Ceuta, Melilla and the Canary Islands.

It could be



It was also mentioned in the second article that

Saadeddine al Othmani, assured in an interview with an Egyptian chain that the time had come to talk about Ceuta and Melilla.

What is important is that Spain recognizes Morocco Sahara loud and clear!!!

If it were a deal that pleases Spain, José Manuel Albares wouldn’t have to explain himself over and over and over again to some Spanish cuckoo people.


He said it has been 46 years and Spain should take a position, he never stated that he made a great deal with Morocco!!

 
letstalk a dit:
I haven’t ignored your posts just had a busier day,
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I wasn't talking about all the posts, only the one where I asked you the reason for your change of mind, as if you had finally found the subject discussed elsewhere, and didn't see fit to submit your link here, something like that.
 
I wasn't talking about all the posts, only the one where I asked you the reason for your change of mind, as if you had finally found the subject discussed elsewhere, and didn't see fit to submit your link here, something like that.
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I haven’t changed my mind.

I was reading many junk newspapers that are driven by bias and trying to make up the reality and confuse the novice readers

I searched theGlobalMail newspaper website to see if there is such information, but did not find any.

theGlobalMail is a trusty source of information

I also looked at José Manuel Albares speech and haven’t found a single piece of information that tells me that Morocco had made a deal on giving up the demand for Ceuta, Melilla and the Canary Islands as part of Morocco territory.

Yes I did not change my mind
 
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